Podcast: Fast Fatty the Third

Kristia van Heerden Latest, The Fat Wallet

We use my long-awaited holiday to catch up to some user questions for the next three weeks. We hope you enjoy the shorter episodes as much as I plan on enjoying my break!


I have an Old Mutual Endowment policy that matures in November 2020.. I also have a lump sum in a TymeBank account in various GoalSaves, which I don’t need to use any time soon. I have another lump sum in an African Bank account. 

I’m not sure whether I should pool all the money and put it into a fixed deposit account with African Bank for 5 years (the interest rate is very attractive at 10.01% annual interest payout) and have the interest payout annually, so that it doesn’t go over the R23,800 tax exemption.

Or should I take the money and invest it into ETFs, split 50/50 into local and international. With the idea of investing for dividends and growth. I know that I won’t be sheltered from taxes if I do this.

I was thinking of splitting it between the following ETFs (I use the same ETFs for my TFSA):

  • Coreshares Preftrax
  • Coreshares DivTrax
  • Satrix Divi
  • Coreshares Top 50
  • Coreshares Property Income
  • Coreshares Global DivTrax
  • 1nvest Global REIT
  • Satrix MCSI World
  • Satrix S&P500
  • Sygnia 4IR

If I decide to do the fixed deposit, then I was thinking of using the interest payout each year and invest it in ETFs (and be subjected to taxes).

My wife doesn’t know anything about RA/TFSA tax benefits or investing, and has absolutely no interest in using her TFSA. I even helped create and set up one for her on Easy Equities. I could use the fixed deposit interest payout and then fund her TFSA each year and then top it up to max it out as well. However, the disadvantage is that on death, then the TFSA will form part of her estate.

And then lastly, I could also put it into my RA, which I currently have with Sygnia (Sygnia Skeleton Balanced 70). I won’t benefit from a tax return, but will possibly benefit from CGT, DWT and tax on interest earned.

I’m finding it difficult to make a decision on what would be most beneficial. Any suggestions on what I could do with this lump sum?

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I switched the Sygnia MSCI USA to their new Health Innovation fund. This is an active fund (with performance fees 😱) that uses the MSCI World Health index as a benchmark and applies an ESG filter. 

My reasoning was that new developments in health care (including a COVID-19 vaccine) are likely going to play an outsized role in the world economy and I wanted a piece of that action. 

Unfortunately, there are no local ETFs which track any health-related indices, so this seemed the only available option for someone who wanted global exposure to this sector. I’ve attached the factsheet and I’d be interested to know your and Simon’s thoughts on this fund.

Guillym thinks he knows why Anne’s Liberty fees are 12% of her monthly contribution. 

This is probably because these sort of products also can give one cover for illness and disability. Not that they not screwing you over, they probably are so fuck em, just this may explain away a bit of why its to high. 


Give Edwin a Bells!

I have invested in some Thematic US ETFs and was worried about overlaps as I have ARKK (Ark Innovation (Active ETF)) and BOTZ (Global X Robotics and Artificial Intelligence). The comparison highlighted no overlaps whereas I was expecting a few. I should have done the due diligence via vlookups etc but the anchor equity for ARKK is Tesla whereas BOTZ anchor equity is NVidia. I like both equities and I also like the fact that both these funds consist of between 30 and 50 equities so are not over diversified. My 3rd ETF is iShares Global Clean Energy.


You guys often discuss the Ashburton 1200 ETF.  I am considering cashing in my young kids’ Unit Trusts and rather investing it here.  You once mentioned the Ashburton Global 1200 isn’t like a ‘normal’ feeder fund and that one actually owns the underlying shares.

Is this still the case and it seems to have read somewhere that this might have changed recently? I would prefer to own the underlying shares as this as it feels ‘safer’ that the investment is then not under SA jurisdiction (even though it is Rand denominated.)

I have called Ashburton but they couldn’t help me and said someone from The First Rand Group would fall me back and no one has…



By 30 you should have saved 1x your salary – by 40 it’s 3x! Scary…


How do you choose a living annuity once you get to the stage where you must go on pension?

I would prefer low cost/high performance Living annuities.

I will not draw more than the 4% rule.

I think having 3 years of money in the cash/money market and bonds. (Low risk)

3 to 5 years money in combination with bonds and equity ETFs. (Medium risk).

And the rest of the money in offshore ETFs (High risk).

I would like to structure and manage my own living annuity in one of the companies.

I think you can do it in Alan Grey but I am not sure if they cater for ETFs and it seems they are also more expensive. 

It seems that Outvest has no living annuities.

etfSa and 10X have living annuities, but it dont seem like you have the option for only offshore.

The Fat Wallet Show with Kristia van HeerdenThe Fat Wallet Show is a no-nonsense personal finance and investment podcast hosted by Kristia van Heerden and Simon Brown. Every week we answer questions by a growing audience of finance enthusiasts. Submit your pressing money and investment questions to ask@justonelap.com.

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